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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

Regarding "The data shows that 71% of those detained have not been convicted of a crime, though a significant portion of those face pending criminal charges," I believe a significant number also have outstanding deportation orders, meaning, whether or not they have been convicted of a crime, they have received due process and lost.

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Algo Mas's avatar

What you "believe" is of little interest to anyone but the tooth fairy.

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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

It was of interest to you. Otherwise, you would not have commented.

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Algo Mas's avatar

Nah...not really. I just like telling you to stick it.

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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

You sound like a nice guy. Nah.

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Algo Mas's avatar

Most agree with my perspective. After all...I don't deport anyone. So, I'm a "nice guy" by proxy.

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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

So you do not believe in borders?

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ASmith's avatar

Waiting for you to respond to Carolyn’s questions, Senator.

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Carolyn's avatar

Innocent until proven guilty, unless what, you’re a person of color? You speak Spanish? Do you honestly approve of the methods the Trump administration is using to apprehend and deport human beings to country’s, not of their origin, without due process. Masked men in cameo without ID, in federal court houses apprehending people just making their court dates, people with green cards whisked away because, well, they don’t care. Throwing journalists to the ground and sending them to the hospital. What happened to “violent criminals and cartel members” being deported, not your landscaper, housekeeper or handyman. The last time I saw men with automatic weapons in the street was in Israel, 5 years ago. It’s come to that over migrants, really?

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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

First, the ICE officers, who are our sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, cousins, and neighbors, are not Nazis but trained law enforcement officers. They are enforcing laws democratically passed by Congress, which were not altered even when Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress and held the presidency.

Second, they wear face coverings because crazy and leftist activists want to dox them, and they fear for the safety of their families, as would I.

The individuals they apprehend either have removal orders from the courts or are taken to court for due process.

Law enforcement officers should not pick and choose to enforce certain laws. That is dangerous. If you disagree with the law, change it. Don't trash the people paid to enforce the laws.

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ASmith's avatar

Am I happy? NO. How can anyone be happy in this political climate?

Guess what Senator, those being thrown into deplorable detention centers are fathers, mothers, cousins and neighbors too.

You were once LEO. Don’t give me the tired trope of picking and choosing enforcement is dangerous. I’m not seeing a lot of Northern European immigrants being snatched off the street.

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Carolyn's avatar

With all due respect, I believe in the rule of law and that most American police, National Guard and federal officers are law biding. ICE is new to law enforcement and I am not familiar with their training. To look at them, read about them and observe their behavior many appear to be more like mercenaries than law enforcement. The doxing thing is made up. If that was true, all law enforcement would be masked. KKK wore hoods, remember. People are so fearful, I mean, look at those guys. They don’t wear a standard uniform, they don’t seem to ask for papers or ID, they look like they are steroids and they are terrorizing American citizens and immigrants who are here legally. Yes, law enforcement should follow the law, I don’t see ICE following procedure. I see law enforcement acting like thugs. Again, I believe in the rule of law, I’m respectful of law enforcement but the Trump ICE is “unleashed” ask Stephen Miller.

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Carolyn's avatar

Apparently the ICE budget surpasses the US Marine Corp. That’s new.

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State Senator John Kavanagh's avatar

According to the Arizona Agenda's art intern:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was created on March 1, 2003, as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s post-9/11 reorganization. Before that, immigration enforcement had been handled for more than a century by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) under the Department of Justice, which was dissolved in 2003.

ICE was formed by combining INS’s interior enforcement functions with parts of the U.S. Customs Service, giving it responsibility for enforcing immigration and customs laws inside the United States rather than at the borders. The agency is organized into two main divisions: Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), which arrests, detains, and deports individuals unlawfully present in the country, and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), which investigates transnational crimes such as human trafficking, drug smuggling, money laundering, and cybercrime.

With about 20,000 employees and an annual budget of roughly $8 billion, ICE has become both one of DHS’s largest agencies and one of its most controversial, drawing praise for its role in combating crime but also criticism over deportation practices, family separations, and civil rights concerns.

So it not new, just reorganized.

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Carolyn's avatar

I misspoke. They are not new and I’m way old enough to remember the INS. What I meant is they have not been as visible, dressed or masked like they are as in the past. It’s definitely a new look. The rest I stand by. I really blame congress for ourof immigration laws.

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ASmith's avatar

Am I happy? NO. How can anyone be happy in this political climate?

Guess what Senator, those being thrown into deplorable detention centers are fathers, mothers, cousins and neighbors too.

You were once LEO. Don’t give me the tired trope of picking and choosing enforcement is dangerous. I’m not seeing a lot of Northern European immigrants being snatched off the street.

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Charlie Martin's avatar

Taco Bell?

I grew up on the east coast, but felt legitimately Arizonan the day that my kids asked to eat somewhere else when they realized that Taco Bell didn’t have horchata.

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Carolyn's avatar

Is anyone as concerned as I am that the federal government websites have become angry ads for Republicans? I’m afraid the President of the United States has gone....well mad. Gathering, those of the highest military rank, and rambling on about everything from walking down stairs (apparently while a terrible President, Obama did it best) from using the military, which is constitutional illegal, on Democratically run cities, as a training ground. He want to find the “enemy from within.” I’m assumption is if your a registered Democrat your in serious trouble. This summer I was in Portland, Ore. and San Francisco. Both beautiful, clean, orderly and incredibly fun. Great food, kind, helpful people just like Phoenix. (Sure there are places in the valley as there are in the other cities that need help but they are not war like) The thought of armed, masked men marching in formation down the streets in the United States of America makes my cry. If you don’t think he’s coming here you’re out of your mind. Then there’s Hegseth the misogynistic, drunken, Fox morning host elevated to Department of Defense highest office telling the generals to shave, cut their hair while fat shaming them, bouncing around the stage like a puppet on a string waiting for a laugh. I unfortunately, watched the entire, horrifying event. Be very afraid, Republicans and Democrats, thing will get worse before they get better.

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Hank Stephenson's avatar

Yeah, the websites thing was a pretty jaw dropping new frontier for me too

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